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87. From Thought to Symptom in Seconds: How a Single Stress Thought Shuts Down Digestion
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Could the thoughts running through your mind be influencing your digestion, sleep, hormones, and physical symptoms?
In this episode of the Beauty of Breathing Podcast, Renata Nehme speaks with Dr. Meg Mill about the connection among our thoughts, the nervous system, and the body’s ability to digest, recover, and heal.
Together, they explore:
✨ Why digestion begins in the brain before food reaches the stomach
✨ How stressful thoughts may activate the fight or flight response
✨ Why the body deprioritizes digestion when it perceives danger
✨ The relationship among the brain, vagus nerve, and digestive system
✨ How chronic stress may affect nutrient absorption, hormones, sleep, and weight
✨ Why identifying the deeper thought beneath our mental chatter matters
✨ How breathing can help communicate safety to the nervous system
✨ The connection among airway health, sleep, cortisol, and digestion
✨ How perimenopause and menopause may reveal underlying imbalances
✨ Why small, consistent habits can create meaningful changes over time
Dr. Mill explains the cephalic phase of digestion, the process through which seeing, smelling, preparing, and thinking about food helps the body prepare to eat. When the nervous system instead receives signals of danger, digestive functions such as saliva production, stomach acid, enzyme release, bile flow, and intestinal movement may be affected.
She also introduces her Seven Second Switch, a process designed to help people identify recurring thoughts, notice how those thoughts feel in the body, question whether they are true, and replace them with something more supportive and believable. A conscious breath then helps reinforce the shift and reconnect the mind with the body.
Renata and Dr. Mill also discuss why someone can appear healthy while struggling with poor sleep, digestive symptoms, hormonal changes, elevated stress, fatigue, or difficulty losing weight. Their conversation highlights the importance of examining the whole picture, including thoughts, breathing, airway function, nutrition, elimination, hormones, and sleep.
Dr. Meg Mill is a Doctor of Pharmacy and Certified Functional Medicine Practitioner with more than 20 years of experience in root cause health. She is the creator of the Solera Method and the Seven Second Switch, founder of the Women’s Functional Health Institute, and host of the A Little Bit Healthier podcast.
🎧 Tune in to discover how changing your response to a stressful thought may help your body move from survival mode toward better digestion, deeper rest, and greater balance.
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Renata Nehme RDH, BSDH, COM®, OMS™ has been a Registered Dental Hygienist since 2010. In 2016, when she was introduced to the world of "Myofunctional Therapy" she immediately knew that was her calling, especially when she learned that it encapsulated many of her passions- breastfeeding, the import of early childhood development, and airway health.
In 2021 Renata founded Airway Circle with the intention of creating a collaborative and multidisciplinary group of like-minded health professionals who share the same passion for learning and giving in the dental health and airway space.
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Podcast Updates And Live Setup
SPEAKER_01Happy Beauty of Breathing and for those who do not know as of right now this is the last online recording for Beauty of Breathing that I'm going to do for some time. I was just offline talking to Dr. Meg about all of the hats that we're you know that we're wearing and where we should be focusing a little bit more. So you guys may see some changes. Um we're gonna go live on Instagram right now. You guys may see some changes coming to BDL breathing in the future. It might take me some time, but I wanna reorganize everything where I'm putting my energy in because I feel like it's just so important, right? We're gonna talk about health. It is so important for a whole body health for us to pick and choose where our energy goes to.
SPEAKER_00Yes, absolutely. It's hard sometimes, but we need to. We'll talk about why why that's important.
SPEAKER_01Yes, perfect. So let's go ahead and start. Everybody, if you're um, I went live on uh Instagram, but it doesn't look like the video is showing you. So you guys just let me know on Instagram if you're watching this. Uh, let me know if you can see us.
Meet Dr Meg Mill
SPEAKER_01So today I'm excited to welcome Dr. Mag Mill to the Beauty of Breathing Podcast. Dr. Mag is a doctor of clinical pharmacy and certified functional medicine practitioner with more than 20 years of experience in root cause health. Her work focuses on the connection between the nervous system, our thoughts, and the way those signals affect digestion, hormones, and overall health. She is the creator of the Solara method and the seven second switch. And she's also the founder of the Women's Functional Health Institute and host of A Little Bit Healthier. Today we're talking about something fascinating. How a single thought can create a physical response in the body and potentially shut down digestion within seconds? How many of you listening right now to us live? That's why I love video breathing because it's live and people can ask questions. So if you're listening to us live, how many of you have felt an issue with your digestion recently? And who would have thought that it could have something to do with our thoughts? Please welcome to the beauty of breathing stage. Um, I'm so excited about this talk. Thank you for being here. Thank you so much for having me. So, how I want to start with the idea. Um, at the heart of your work, what happens in your mind is happening in your body right now. When did you first realize just how powerful that connection really was?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so it's it's been an interesting journey. And that's why the you know, this topic, I just wrote a book called The Seven Second Switch. So it the full book shows all of the dynamics in there and what we can do. Because, you know, it's interesting. I was using these techniques on myself for a long time. So part of my journey was switching from the conventional side of medicine to the functional side because of my own health issues. And part of that journey was, you know, I had my own practices that I was doing, like, you know, to feel better along with the functional medicine pieces. But I didn't at first bring it into my functional medicine practice. So at this point, I've worked with close to a thousand women and I train women's functional health practitioners to really, because I was able to get such amazing results for people. And in that process, one of the things that I saw is there's almost like a disconnect with a lot of times in the functional space because we're talking about all the things like the testing and the diet and the supplements and all these, you know, things that you have to, maybe even breath work and all of these things we're doing, but we're not bringing it back to the triggers that we're actually getting. So what I would have people say to me is that, okay, you know, I do my breath work, or maybe, you know, not everyone has time to do a meditation, or either trying to get all these habits in. They feel like the habits are stacking, but they're saying, okay, but in my life, in the real moments, what do I do then? Like I, you know, I can feel good when I'm sitting there for five minutes, but then how do I bring it back? And so I started to use some of these things that I actually personally had been using. And once we started doing that and I started incorporating those things with the clients I was working with, I started to see more and more changes, and everything else we were doing was working better. And that's where my research went more deeply into the connection really between the thought and the physiology and how that plays out in your body
How Stress Thoughts Halt Digestion
SPEAKER_00and what we can do to change that signal.
SPEAKER_01It is just incredible to me. It's fascinating. We tend to think of a thought as something happening in our head. What is actually happening physiologically when we have a stressful thought?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So, and what's interesting about this is and I just kind of want to bring this because like a fun fact. Um, really, you know, Pavlov and Pavlov's dogs and the bell. Well, he actually wasn't studying condition response. He was actually studying the physiology of digestion. That's what he won the Nobel Prize for. So most people think of him as, yeah, the condition response, but he was studying that. And what he discovered back then, that was in the late 1800s, early 1900s, was something amazing called the cephalic phase of digestion. So digestion starts actually before we eat. And most people think of saliva or, you know, stomach acid or, you know, your pancreas or your bile or all the things, but it actually starts in the brain, which is really something we're not thinking about. And that's why, like looking at your food, cooking your food, smelling your food, we can see a physiological response start to happen from all of these things as your body's preparing for digestion. However, it can also turn off digestion because we are giving our body signals saying, I'm in danger. So we have different types of nervous systems in our body. And one of those is called the autonomic nervous system. And the autonomic nervous system is the part that controls things you don't think about. So it's like think controlling your breath, your digestion, things like that. And so when we're in that, you know, in the autonomic nervous system, we have a parasympathetic, which is our rest and digest, and we have a sympathetic, which is fight or flight. So when we're in the fight or flight stage, we're actually giving our body signals to run because in fight or flight, the whole point is to run from a lion and get out of there. So we're saying, okay, shut off. You know, when we're in parasympathetic, when rest and digest, it's saying, okay, produce saliva, produce stomach acid, produce enzymes, release bile. We have what we call migrating motor complex that helps food go through the digestive process. So we're turning on all of those things. And when we're in the other place, we're we're really sending our body signals to turn them off. And the problem is that your mind and your body can't distinguish from, you know, I'm so busy, you know, I'm not good enough, all of these thoughts that are going through our head all day long from I'm being chased by a lion. So it's not able to differentiate. And so we're giving our signals, self-signals that are shutting off the things we're trying to do often.
SPEAKER_01This goes so hand in hand with what we do in the world of breathing and airway and myofunctional therapy. So that's our biggest audience. There are people that are already looking at the way that you're breathing and how that usually affects your sleep. And we usually teach in this world that whenever you go to sleep, you're supposed to be in this rest and digest. You're supposed to be breathing in and out of your nose calmly. And if for some reason you have any type of nasal obstruction, you're gonna go into the spider flight. Then instead of rest and digest, you're running a marathon or you're running from a bear all night long. That is not good for your body and for your digestion is not either because you need that time in rest and digest. Um, this is just bringing so many more questions into my mind.
The Seven Second Switch Method
SPEAKER_01Can you talk to us a little bit about the seventh second? Am I seventh?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And that's just like what I feel like it takes. So when you start this process, so basically we're taking a process and we're saying we're identifying the thought. So we're the first step I think in it is that a lot of our thoughts aren't are these chatter thoughts, and there's a core thought underneath. So we work through identifying what core thoughts you have. So I I give an example of this sometimes, like, you know, you might be, I'm so busy, I'm always late for everything. I'm always running late. And then you're like, oh yeah. Who does run late? Yes. And then you think, well, why does it really matter? Like, who cares if you're running late? And then you maybe another thought below that is I'm letting people down because I, you know, I'm okay. Well, why does that even matter? So then you think, I'm not, maybe the underneath that thought is I'm not good enough for love. Okay, then that's a real core thought because then that's the thought that's really be beneath the other thought. So so the first thing we want to do is spend a little bit of time setting ourselves up and identifying some of our what these thoughts mean to us. And then we want to feel it because, you know, our thoughts actually, like we say, you can feel the thought in your body. And if you everyone's had butterfly, you know, we've all heard that. Like, I have butterflies in our stomach, but we all knew that, but we're not really thinking of like, well, why do you have butterflies in your stomach? Like, what, you know, what is the connection there? And so we need to look and feel where the thoughts are in our body. One of the other point important things that we do is we ask the truth of it. And I think that that's like a key part of asking, is it true? Because 99.9% of the time, our thoughts are not true. They're just patterns that we've repeated over and over again. And so we question like, is it true? Do we know it's true? We have a process of removing the thought. And then we actually remove the thought, we do some a little like a somatic exercise to remove the thought, and then we replace it with the new thought. And what you know, the new thought important here is that we don't want to say it has to be believable because again, we have to attach to the new thought. If we say something too far off, like, oh, I'm gonna be 10 minutes old everywhere I go, or you know, I am like, it's like too much and you move, you would you don't believe it. So it's like, okay, you know, sometimes it's just I'm okay right now in this moment, or I can get through today, or something that's better than the thought that you know we're working on, and then we take a deep breath. And then that's where the breath also comes in because we need to reset the nervous system and and the bagel nerve.
Mom Stress Reset In The Car
SPEAKER_01Okay, can I bring an example that I think most people listening can maybe relate? Yes. So, one, my excuse is I'm always late because I'm from Brazil. Because Brazilians are always late, it's not considered something rude, and I share that with everybody because it's expected. You know, I understand that like the American culture is totally different. However, even though I'm always late, it's still stressful as a mom to get out of the house and get everybody ready. So I feel like most moms can relate to us. Lift your hand up if you're listening and you can relate to this. You're trying to get out of the house for school, for church, and you end up getting extremely upset and fighting with everybody, and then you get in the car and you have, you know, your 10, 20, 30 minute drive to wherever you're going, and that already ruined everything else. What are some tricks that you can give us for that moment that you do get in the car and now you're driving and you're in outside of your control um to kind of help us change that thought and maybe make that now a positive moment because it's so important for us to set our kids up for their day. And I feel like if you were so stressful at home where they're supposed to be loved, then I'm guilty of that. And then in the car, you know, they're starting their day with people being mad at them and and screaming or, you know, already knowing that they are late, there's something wrong. Uh, what is an easy shift that we can make whenever we get in the car that maybe you would help kind of change that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So I think one of what you're telling me if this is, you know, kind of going back to that core. You're saying, you know, one of the core that I hear there is I'm not a good mom. Because, you know, if we go back to, you know, it's all the, and then you're yelling, and then you're saying, and so then your core is like, I'm not doing you know, I'm not doing the right things for my kids, I'm not being a good mom because I created chaos and I was mad because of the chaos and all of these things. So it would be going back and working on, you know, on going back through the process and working one one of the things you can do is go back through the process and work on that thought. So, you know, do the seven second switch process with that thought. And then, you know, in in your replacement could be something like, I'm doing the best I can in the moment. Like I'm, you know, that there's a lot for on my plate right now. I'm doing the best I can. Like that's something that, and then I would say just also being, you know, when in that specifically, once you kind of go through the whole pro and in the book, I lay out like the whole process, how to do all of it, and and what, and it's seven seconds because once you practice, it's like quick, quick, quick. You just get, you know, used to it. Um, but but then I also like that's another opportunity where you could just take you talk about breathing. Like you could just take some deep do it and then take some deep breaths while you're in the car, reset yourself, give yourself, you know, permission, love, like you things happen and you still, you know, you're maybe your kids are still there right now. And like, okay, let's maybe we sing a song, maybe we do something that changes the moment. Um, but it, but even identify, I think even one of the things of identifying that identifying it and then and then really feeling like, okay, what you know, it's not that you're bad, like, is it true? No, you're not a bad mom because of that. Everything every that happens with everyone at different times, but how can you give yourself some grace in that moment?
SPEAKER_01I love that.
SPEAKER_00That's such good um advice.
SPEAKER_01Thank you. And it is. Oh, but it's so cool that you you caught something though, even when beh you know, before what I was thinking. So that is so, so interesting. Um, why though is digestion one of the first systems
Vagus Nerve And Root Causes
SPEAKER_01to change when the nervous system uh for sees stress? And what are some of the things?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and that's because of the you know, as we're talking. So we have what we call a gut-brain connection. So you have a what we what's a vagus nerve that runs from the base of your your brain, your skull, to the um, yes, through the digestive system. And so they're all your your vagus nerve is like a super highway of communication. We have what we call afferent and efferent signals that go back and forth and give each other messages. So when we are in fight or flight, our vagus nerve is saying, is is really saying, okay, survive right now. I don't, you know, I don't really need to prioritize digestion because right now I have to prioritize survival. So it's actually doing things to prioritize survival. It can even change like your pupil size. It makes blood go to the limbs. It should, you know, so it shuts down the digestive functions because it's prioritizing other other things at that point. So it that's really where we start to see this shift. What's interesting about it, because I work with people, you know, I've I've worked like work, I had a virtual functional medicine practice for years, work with people all over the world, um, close to a thousand people before I started training practitioners. And what I would see a lot of times is people would come in with like what starts to happen is is I call it downstream, upstream. You know, we start to say, like, okay, you know, maybe I've hor like a woman, like I'm have hormonal imbalances. But when we shut off digestion, if we can't digestion and absorb what we're eating, even if we're eating a perfect diet, we're sometimes not getting the nutrients we need from the food we eat. So people can be doing a lot of things here that are looking at like what I would call some downstream things that they're trying to fix. Like they're trying to look at specifics and based on symptoms. But when we don't look at the whole picture, when we don't look at the changes that are happening from some of these signals that signal other things, then we can kind of be spinning our wheels and and trying all of these things. And that's where I was kind of saying earlier, like you start stacking, like trying all of the things that you and and they're not always working, and then you just have more things more to do.
SPEAKER_01Um, so I've been going through a whole health thing myself because I just want to know everything. Why am I feeling this way? And it's interesting because I gained like 10 pounds a year ago and I haven't been able to lose at all. However, I recently did. You'll do it. Yeah. However, if someone is eating all the right foods and taking all the right supplements like it was, but their nervous system is constantly in a stress response, can they still struggle to digest and absorb those things effectively and lose weight?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So that there's a lot of factors that come in there. And I think that is one of the things that starts to happen is we start, I see so many people who are doing all the things. And you know, when you're talking about the weight loss, it's like I just can't. And then, you know, we could add even a layer that you start, some people start cutting calories because you're cutting food because again, you're trying to lose weight. That's what you've been taught. Your body's going into like famine again because you're cutting the calories. And so that even gives it more messages like, hey, I'm starving. I need to survive. Um, but you're not, you're doing all the things in the I want to say they're they're not wrong things, a lot of them. So that's I think that's another thing. I'm not saying, oh, that they're wrong. It's just sometimes when they're done in the wrong order and we're not looking at getting the foundation. Like I kind of explain it sometimes like building a house. Like if you don't have a foundation, if you don't have a basement, but you're putting windows up and you're putting walls up, it's it's not gonna hold. And so some of the things that will happen and people will would come to me after going to other people because they would be like, you know, I did this and maybe I felt better for a little bit and then it didn't work. And then I, you know, jumping around to different people because we're trying all these things, but we're not really putting all the pieces together for
Breathing Airway Posture And Healing
SPEAKER_00that person in order to say what's gonna move the needle long term and really bring our body back into the balance that it we want it to be in.
SPEAKER_01And how is breathing related to all of that?
SPEAKER_00Like how well, I mean, I think breathing is a set, like, okay, so I have what we what I call, because I again train practitioner, you know, women's functional health practitioners. And I have created over the years, again, why I was why can I get results and and other people sometimes don't, you know, like whenever people would come to me. And and so I really have, I'm a systems person. So I looked over years and years of okay, what are the things I'm doing? And it's it's more complicated than just one thing, and and that's what we learn. But one of the things I've developed is the Solar method. And that's actually also in the book, the seven-second switch. So the first part teaches us the seven-second switch, it teaches us why this is all happening. And then we have a seven-week plan of the Solara method. The first level of the Solar method is calm the nervous system. If you're not breathing right, think about it. Remember the auto, remember that autonomic nervous system and it's controls your heart rate, your breath, your digestion. If you're not breathing right, you're telling your body again, as you said earlier, like I'm in fight or flight. So we start noticing that shallow chest breath, like, you know, the block breathing. So really, breath is an essential piece of this.
SPEAKER_01And this is where the airway component comes in, because um, if your teeth are not coming together properly, if your tongue is not on your palate, how it's supposed to be all day and all night with your lips slightly closed, breathing in through your nose and out of your nose, that gives your body stability. So when you don't have that, because you have either a nasal obstruction or a tongue tie, or your mouth is always open for several different reasons, all of a sudden your body, your body automatically goes in spider-flight. And you have to then change your um posture. Your head goes forward because it's easier to breathe that way. Your shoulders go forward because you know it's easier to open up the airway when everything is forward. Uh, and yes, it has a cascade uh down your whole body with your hips being misaligned and your knees hyperextended and your feet in different positions and more weight on one side versus the other. But it's all an attempt for your body to find where is that stability. And I have heard that just the posture itself, if your posture is incorrect, that already gets you on fight or flight. Yeah. You know, and I'm like, oh my gosh, that's so interesting. So it's one of those things, what came first, the chicken or the egg. However, they all work in conjunction. That's why you're working. That's why we we refer to functional medicine all the time. I recently had a patient that came to me because she, I think it was, she had a tongue tie or jaw issues. And I'm looking at her um history, and I'm you know, I'm like, you need to go see a functional medicine first. Let's get your blood work done. Let's see how those numbers are, how your hormones are, you know, make sure your vitamin D levels are good, B12, uh, those are things that we just know that are good for asleep, magnesium glycinate. Um, and let's take a look at those first, ferritin levels before we even start doing exercises. We even start changing the skeletal structure. Because if we are trying to make those changes in a body that is unhealthy, nothing is gonna hold, you know, and more issues might come up. So um collaboration is key. Exactly. I agree.
SPEAKER_00Anyone listen to that? I know I check when we talk about posture too, I like check mine too. You know, we we all have to work on it. And I think even with the thoughts, like it's not like I'm not working on these things daily. You were saying, like, we're all it's a journey, I think. And I think that's the other thing. It's just getting the things that you can every day in your life in an easy way that is what changes things. I actually have a podcast too, and it's called. A little bit healthier because I was like, okay, what are the things that we can do every day to be a little bit mythier? And I think sometimes we give um our power away because we think, like, oh, I have to go to the practitioner that's gonna give me the directions. And not that that doesn't help and like we that we need to do that being on the other side, yes, there's value, but but at the same time, also there's so many things that if we just get little hat, like you're saying, like little habits in every single day, they can they compound to make a big difference.
SPEAKER_01You know, I'm so glad that you said that because I've never been a person who likes working out. I've never been, you know, like excited about going to do any type of body workout. And when I started, um, I remember that I had like 10 minutes in the morning. And if you ask anybody that tells you to work out, they would tell you you have to work out for 45 minutes or for an hour, otherwise you're not doing anything. You know, and I heard that so much my whole life. And then eventually I was like, well, I have 10 minutes. If I can do something for 10 minutes, it's better than not doing anything else. And whenever I actually started using those 10 minutes in the morning, it got to the point that I got excited about working out. So I started making more time, you know, either waking up early or whatever I had to do, but making more time.
Sleep Cortisol And Hidden Apnea
SPEAKER_01And it got to the point that was working out for almost an hour in the morning. But he, it's okay for you to start with those little tiny uh changes. If that's all you have, it's okay. Use that. Um, there are so many high-functioning women out there that look really healthy from the outside while their physiology is telling a very different story. We see that a lot in sleep apnea patients. We for some reason think that in order for you to have sleep apnea, you have to be an older man who is overweight. However, there are so many children suffering from sleep apnea. There's so many young fit women that don't look like they need anything from the outside. And then whenever we start digging and looking at um sleep studies or looking at their symptoms, or if they started snoring, uh, we may find a problem. And you guys, this is also important. If you go to sleep and you're not going into deep sleep, that's when uh the amazing hormones for repair regeneration, um, the amazing hormones for growth for children and leptin and ghrelin. Leptin and ghrelin are hormones that are responsible for uh satiation, so making you feel full, and the other one gives you hunger. And it goes the opposite direction if you don't get deep sleep. So anything that you're doing there, please also check your sleep as part of um ruling out anything that could be possibly making it harder for you to get healthier.
SPEAKER_00But tell us a little bit about the yeah, I can compound that too, because another thing that I see is that what so going back to this, you know, stress response, like the, you know, when we're in this fight or flight, we also have an elevation of cortisol. So when core so, in order for your melatonin, so cortisol and melatonin to have an inverse relationship. So cortisol should go up in the day and then be rock bottom at night. And so I also see a lot of women that people that whenever the core they're in this fight or flight, they're waking up a lot in the night, they're how, you know, maybe they have sleep apnea, maybe they don't even. And we see, I mean, I see, I know, see a lot of women who have trouble staying asleep. You know, a lot of people can fall asleep and not stay asleep, but their cortisol might be really saying, you know, high still at night. And then the melatonin never really gets up to the level that it needs to. So when we're in this space, we're saying, okay, we're dominating with cortisol and we don't have the rhythm that we should have. So we need to make sure that we have this right circadian rhythm also to be able to stay asleep. And I do think I I agree with you, you know, often I'm I I will ask people, have you been checked for sleep apnea? Do you have, you know, with the sleep? Because you're working on the other things. And if you're not looking at the at that and how you're breathing through the night, and you know, a lot of times people have these issues and they don't get checked, you know, they don't get checked.
SPEAKER_01So I And also so so important for us to be able to understand the sleep studies. There are so many patients of mine that I would send to a sleep physician to get a sleep apnea test done, and they only look at the AHI. The AHI is the apnea hypopnea index. It's a calculation that they do. Um, they so they add the amount of obstructions that you had or of apneas that you had at night, and then they um divide by the amount of hours that you slept. So it doesn't give you the full picture. And if that number is low, a lot of times they'll say they're okay. So make sure that you go to somebody who can get the sleep study, kind of break it down for you, because there's something way more common in women and children that is called UARS, upper air resistance syndrome. However, I'm pretty sure they're dropping this name and they're just gonna call everything sleep apnea, type one, two, three. Um, so keep an eye out for the change of the UARS um word that I don't think they're gonna use it anymore. But they don't have full obstructions. So these are the people that are exhausted during the day. People with sleep apnea are often sleepy, and those are easier to fix. But UARS, they're just tired. So children get tired and wired, they are climbing up the walls. And then women, we get irritable, we have excess cortisol because instead of the amazing hormones we're getting, we're getting more cortisol. So then cortisol will bounce away. We can't lose weight, so max that there's all these things that they have to do. It's a so low effect. Uh somebody, Jamma is asking what role does menopause and estrogen and progesterone play in sleep? Let's talk a little bit about hormones.
SPEAKER_00Yes. So progesterone, you know, this your hormones have different purposes. So think of estrogen as more of our activating hormone. And I'm I'm really simplifying this, but you know, we in often we see the progesterone is more of our calming hormone. So progesterone actually promotes GABA. So GABA is, yes, I call them nurturing. It's just yep. And so when we have progesterone, particularly, that's more, that's the hormone that's more associated with sleep disruptions. When we have low progesterone, we have more issues sleeping. So often when we take, you know, do some sort of HRT like hormone replacement therapy and we add progesterone, those issues that we're not, that we're not sleeping well can really make it can really make a difference. And part of that is the promotion of GABA. You can get GABA in a supplemental form too. That's another thing sometimes like yours that sometimes people um do. Uh, the other thing that can happen is when we're also getting low estrogen. And there's a lot of things, but these are
Menopause Hormones And Sleep Disruption
SPEAKER_00kind of like the most common. The other thing is when we see the low estrogen, we start to get the hot flashes, the night sweats, things like that. And so those vasor motor changes can be things that keep us up at night, that wake us up. So a lot of women will have trouble once they get into metopause for kind of like double whammy of getting low progesterone. So we're not promoting sleep as much, we're not getting as much GABA. And then we also have those vasor motor like issues that are keeping us up when we're in night sweats, when we're soaked, when we, you know, so it's so it can kind of be something that, you know, perpetuates this the lack of sleep.
SPEAKER_01I love this. And it goes, it goes hand in hand because one of the things that we look for in sleep are also sweating at night that it could be related to you not being able to breathe well and your body trying to get you back to homeostasis, it has to release so kids will bed wet, or you wake up to go to the bathroom. Some people just sweat profusely. However, depending on your age and if you're you have to look at your hormones too. I recently dealt with that that I started sweating at night. I was like, I never did this. What's happening? Like a hyper general one.
SPEAKER_00Things change. Yeah. And like I think in one of the things is get one some of the things that start to happen is because like I think right now online everything is being blamed on like perimetopause. And so, and I think it's great that we're talking about perimetopause. That's wonderful. And and we need to know every woman needs to be empowered to know how her hormones are changing. And I really believe that. But then it's also unpacking a little bit of sometimes perimetopause as the so sometimes as the hormones change, it can make underlying things louder. So imbalances, as you know, that maybe you weren't like the weight gain or like the different, you know, some of those things that are different that your body's like, yeah, I see it a lot with histamine issues too. Like people are like handling it, handling it, you're not noticing it. And then the hormones start to change and other symptoms start to come up too, because of the change in the hormones as we're going through the perimetopause to menopause transition.
SPEAKER_01I love that. Well, I can seriously sit here and ask you questions all day long, but we have to start closing. So last few questions, and then we're gonna do a little fun rapid fire. Okay. Sure. Um, if someone listening has been doing everything they can uh to get healthy, but still doesn't feel like themselves, where would you tell them to start?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, I would tell them to buy my book, The Seven Second Switch, because for two reasons. I was like, you know, it's an easy way to start. And we actually have a program right after it. We also have a program called switched on that is giving you like the implementation of what you need to do every day. So the book gives the this the seven-second switch process, why it's working, and then it gives us the Solar method. So it actually gives you seven weeks of checklists of things you can eat. Like I'm so about easy, like easy things that can focus and get you help in the right order. And then we have the switched on program that goes deeper and you know really works on like how are we doing this? Like, you know, um, I actually just created, I know this is a little off, but I just created an AI prompt that actually takes everything and makes you your own personal meal plans with recipes like exactly for you for your own individual needs. Like I was like, I can't even believe it. I tested on myself. I'm like, wow, I just can't believe this the city that's in the program, but that's inside, but it's it's it's really good. So because everything's generic, but like what are your food choices? What do you like? Like, what's your calories that you need to have the day? Proteins, you know, fiber, all of those things. So that that's that's pretty cool. But yeah, so yeah, start there. Um, I would say we because we're giving you order and we're giving in that so you can say, okay, look at what are the foundations? And maybe you're doing all the things, maybe you're even working with practitioners, but are you looking at it from the foundation up and really getting all the things in the right places in order to feel better?
SPEAKER_01So you guys work on everything from how well you should be eating to how can we reduce stress and change our thoughts to make sure that it doesn't affect the rest of our digestion?
SPEAKER_00Everything. Yep. Everything. So so the Solara, it we go through calming the nervous system, then we go through engaging digestion, loading nutrients. So what nutrients are you eating? And then we go through elimination pathways. Cause if you're not eliminating, like you're going to the bathroom, spreading all the other, you know, things, and we can't get rid of the toxins, we get into yielding metabolism. So we have energy, insulin, metabolism, rebalancing hormones. Um, and then we then we do if everything is in place, then you then we amplify detoxification. You should never do detoxification unless you have all the other things in place.
SPEAKER_01Perfect. So
Where To Start And Programs
SPEAKER_01that's the program that you have for anybody who wants to find and be healthier.
SPEAKER_00And that's in the book. They can even get that in the yeah, that that information's in the book. That's the other way. And then for practitioners, do you have anything in? Yeah, so that I I have the Women's Functional Health Institute. So I actually train, um, I feel like women, you know, it's a mission. I'm on a mission to reach more women because again, we're often let down and we don't have direction on what to do. So I train actually women's functional health practitioners and I certified them. We're accredited, that you know, we have about 200 hours of learning, but it's all and there's business um training in there because you actually want to be able to do it for a living. I think a lot of certifications drop that, but it's all really applicable. It's very applicable to like what do you do with that woman sitting across from you? It's not, I mean, yes, there's theory, there's resources, but it's all more on what to actually do to move the needle. And you know, yeah, it's my passion. So if you ever want to, if you feel like a calling, reach out to me. I actually talk to everyone that is interested because um it changed my life and it's changed all the women's lives that I've worked with. So I want to bring it to more people.
SPEAKER_01I love it. All right, to finish this, we have a little rapid fire. So I'm gonna start a sentence and then you finish. Ready? Okay. I'm nervous. Okay. Your thoughts are blank affecting your physiology without you knowing it.
SPEAKER_00Digestion begins with the brain, the nervous system needs to be in a parasympathetic place more often than most people are. A symptom is often a clue.
SPEAKER_01The first thing I want someone to understand about stress is that you can change it.
SPEAKER_00I think that we get stuck in it too often, um, and we just feel like this is the way things are. But when we actually do some of the simple things, we can change our response. It's all about, I guess I'm gonna say it's all about our response, but it's it's about how you're responding to your environment.
SPEAKER_01If your body could talk, it would probably say calm down. The biggest mistake women make when trying to heal is starting in the wrong place.
SPEAKER_00One thing you can do in seven seconds is change your thoughts to affect and to really create a new neural pathway and and really change the outcome of a lot of different things physiologically.
SPEAKER_01I love it. Thank you so much. Oh my gosh, this was wonderful. I love already the work that you're doing and how I feel like so many practitioners miss uh the neurological component and the the breathing component and how we have to look at the person and understand everything about it in order um to get him the body to start working properly. So thank you so much
Rapid Fire And Closing Announcements
SPEAKER_01for sharing everything with us. Guys, if you have any questions, please let us know. And I do want to announce that we are opening a new Maya Moves portal. So if I have your email, very soon you're gonna be getting an email there uh for you guys to sign in. Uh, we have a free um portal that you guys are gonna have access to all of my previous resources, any recordings, any classes. And we also have an AI, our AI assistant there. Mia, you guys have seen Mia here and there. Uh, we just updated Mia to answer any myofunctional therapy questions our patients have. And then we're gonna have a paid wall membership portion that is coming up, and I'll share with you guys all the extra stuff you're gonna have access to on that one. So stay tuned. Thank you so much, Dr. Meg, for hanging out with us. Everybody, have a wonderful day, and this will be out next Tuesday. Thank you for having me.
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